I’d be inclined to agree with you. I’ve not read anything that would suggest that a failed pelican/puffin crossing effectively becomes a Zebra. The ZPPPC Regs state that when a red or amber signal is showing, drivers are to stop. As I see it, it’s the signal that gives the stopline its legal status.
The same argument applies at a junction with ped facilities. When a ped phase is inhibited due to two red fails on a conflicting vehicle phase, the responsibility is clearly on the pedestrian. A bit different admittedly, because the pedestrian sees a constant red man rather than nothing at all, but same principle surely!
If a pedestrian crossing goes all dark, does it effectively cease to exist?
Scenario is that one of my crossings is currently dark pending an engineer arriving on site. My argument with my colleague is that when this happens responsibility would lie with the pedestrian (As always?) to cross the road in a safe manner at a suitable point.
Your thoughts and comments would be appreciated if, for no other reason, than to keep the argument going…