23rd April 2018 at 10:58 pm #3321
I dont get this obsession with having a full aspect.
I personally feel that its about time the UK grew up a little bit in terms of its applicable standards.
The rest of the world seems to cope fine with arrow aspects on all signals including reds, the sky doesnt fall in over Eire for their use of flashing amber arrows on give way arms (pretty logical signalling actually) and most of Europe seems to cope pretty well without lighting every piffling little sign.
It strikes me as though our standards are still set in the days of the UK and its regular pea-souper fogs or some other strange logic.
TSRGD 2016 was purported to be / could have been a major overhaul and relaxation of the regs, removing a lot of the silly restrictions and allow a case-by-case application of new thinking.
Instead it became a behemoth of document, difficult to read, full of errors and delivered pretty much zero in terms of proper relaxations and flexibility worth anything to an Engineer.13th January 2018 at 2:38 pm #3318Pat GregoryParticipant
Microsense had a trial where the Amber was gated with the associated Red, it was an arrow for SA & full aspect for LA.6th January 2018 at 7:41 am #3315
Theyre just standard masks in the amber aspect. Have had no complaints so far ajd a few comments to say that theyre helpful.
Im saddened though that seeing as some of the sites in my maintenance area in Lincolnshire were some of the first to be fitted nearly 20 years ago, that as an industry sector we have not made more headway in this subject.. or indeed on red arrows.2nd January 2018 at 11:51 am #3314David HughesParticipant
Thanks Chris. That’s interesting to know. So what do the arrows look like on a leaving amber? Do you use the ‘intelligent’ arrows? Or are they simply starting amber arrows and leaving amber arrows?21st December 2017 at 2:48 am #3313
Have quite a few in my area. To be fair red arrows should have been permitted in the TSRGD review.
They dont always stop drivers misreading the signals but they do tend to provide a better early indication – no proof either way.
I think its Coeval who do an LED intelligent amber arrow.19th December 2017 at 2:59 pm #1085David HughesParticipant
Sorry if this has been discussed previously. We have a couple of junctions with collision incidents believed to be associated with confusion between the left turning and ahead traffic. We have thought about amber arrows and how they may help. I have observed the operation of a junction with an amber arrow in Bournemouth and it looked as though it would help prevent drivers starting off on seeing an amber, even if its not theirs! Any thoughts, experiences, difficulties?
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